Ok, I ran 5v5 with Melvin and crew last night.
He and his group were gracious enough to let me run with Herk and Aerthson so I can get some points. Noobed let me know and they gave me the team invite.
Now, Noobed says I have to do a Melvin post. This may or may not be the post which Noobed is looking for.
I have not played with Melvin much 2x and some chat in Shadowmoon and I do NOT know him well at all.
Observations on Melvin and Noobed
Melvin is all inclusive.
He let us play in his 5v5 without making our gear a requirement. A winning combo? Not at all. But Melvin's logic is that with enough people with gear they can start to put together a style but the gear grind is most important right now.
Noobed is inclusive with fit throwing
Noobed is a difficult guy to read at times. He wants you to play with him and he wants you to play his way. We all do and say dumb stuff and Noobed is there to point it out... again and again... and again! BUT, he knows his stuff. He knew the best way to gear a toon which I didn't realize til after I had geared Herk the opposite way. In the long run, gear does matter and there are several ways to gear a toon and Noobed's system of getting the 3 piece PvP set of Bracers/Belt/Boots first is the better.
Melvin while being inclusive DOES make funny statements in arena!
"That Pally counted as 2 people"
I see where he is coming from since we had no hunter to sting and no mana burn. Killing a decked pally is rough on 3 warr 1 sham and 1 mage... er wait a tic.
We face a team last night that was 3 hunters and 2 locks. That was 5v10 for me, so I can really see the point of Melvin's statement about the pally.
Now, while Melvin is being inclusive, I don't know how many of his statements are just thrown out there for encouragment or cuz it just don't matter. Like when he tells the Prot Spec warrior who is undergeared...
"It's ok to go after the Pally cuz they are healers too."
I thought to myself YIKES!! But, once again, he let my just hit 70 on Sun non epic having Druid onto his team for points and didn't ask that I be good or that I pay him gold.
Did he do so outta the kindness of his heart? Who knows... imo, he is making investements now for payoff later and is ok with the lackluster performance and lack of strategy.
This kind of play style is anathema to Noobed and it is to Noobed's credit that he doesn't freak out more often. Noobed needs stats, strats, and stamina. Stats tell him where he is, Strats telling him where he should get to and the stamina to grind. The thing that upsets him most about Melvin is the differences.
Say Noobed breaks down like this...
Stats 95 -100% He likes to know where he is in gear and what he should be able to do.
Strats 95-100% He likes to know what everyone is capable of doing and how to shut them down or when to run.
Stamina 60-70% He will grind a lot to get his stats but has no sense of comraderie while doing it and you had better be doing the same!
Melvin then breaks down to
Stats 80-90% He likes his gear and like it to be shiny and new.
Strats 20-35% Sorry Melvin, I just haven't seen it out ya.
Stamina 100% Melvin can grind like no one else. It's insane to get 40k Honor is a weekend imo.
Its these differences where the burlap meets the bikini wax area for those two.
Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Monday, February 11, 2008
Druid is 70
Druid hit 70 over the weekend. He went full Resto/PvP spec.
He is now 8/11/42
He is one of the most aggravating opponents in a BG now. I can incompacitate your butt for 10sec minimum.
Here's the recap of annoyance...
Warrior chasing the flag carrier.
/Cyclone
Full 6 sec (Musta not had trinket)
/Roots
Not sure how long but lasted for at least 8 sec ( I cast this to coincide with the ending of Cyclone... he may have stepped 1')
/Cyclone
3 sec
By this time he is starting to hate me and I can see him coming with red in his eye
/shapeshift Dire Bear
/Feral Charge
God he hates me
/Stunning Blow
He really hates me
/Roots
/Travel Form
I am fairly certain he cancelled his account.
K, so tonight I will be in EOTS getting my button layout down for this new spec. Need to start getting the happy macros as well.
Arms and Fury really needs to change to Arms and Resto.
:)
He is now 8/11/42
He is one of the most aggravating opponents in a BG now. I can incompacitate your butt for 10sec minimum.
Here's the recap of annoyance...
Warrior chasing the flag carrier.
/Cyclone
Full 6 sec (Musta not had trinket)
/Roots
Not sure how long but lasted for at least 8 sec ( I cast this to coincide with the ending of Cyclone... he may have stepped 1')
/Cyclone
3 sec
By this time he is starting to hate me and I can see him coming with red in his eye
/shapeshift Dire Bear
/Feral Charge
God he hates me
/Stunning Blow
He really hates me
/Roots
/Travel Form
I am fairly certain he cancelled his account.
K, so tonight I will be in EOTS getting my button layout down for this new spec. Need to start getting the happy macros as well.
Arms and Fury really needs to change to Arms and Resto.
:)
Friday, February 8, 2008
What I likes...
K, I saw me friend, the esteemnables Ratshag post as to why he likes being a warrior. Knowing that I in no way can come close to mimicking a Ratshag post, I have decided to talk about my Drood.
What I like about the Drood...
It takes a lot to catch me if I don't feel like fighting. Shapeshift breaking everything is great. Cept that damn Fear crap. Also, the sea lion bit... Yes, you can use it in AB... Yes it is funny.
The lates get away...
I got flight form at lv68 and am a healer. I am looking for groups for Bot and Mech. So I goes to Netherstorm and start to do the Arc chain quest so I can get my Arc Key for Druid. While I am getting packages that the BELFs left lying around... this gnome warlock up and ganks away on me.
K, so when I am dotted I can't turn into a bird.
I am NOT going to fight this lock... I /travel and head off...
Only to see his Warrrior buddy drop from the sky and Charge/stun me. I tap natures grasp and continue running... he gets rooted and then I see the lock just a coming at me on his Netherdrake... sigh
I jump off Netherstorm.
wait
wait
/Flight Form and fly off.
Did I mention the Heals and Dmg Boomking can get away with? What about shifting into cat and hitting Cower?
Did I mention the 6500 crit heal?
Druids are great fun.
What I like about the Drood...
It takes a lot to catch me if I don't feel like fighting. Shapeshift breaking everything is great. Cept that damn Fear crap. Also, the sea lion bit... Yes, you can use it in AB... Yes it is funny.
The lates get away...
I got flight form at lv68 and am a healer. I am looking for groups for Bot and Mech. So I goes to Netherstorm and start to do the Arc chain quest so I can get my Arc Key for Druid. While I am getting packages that the BELFs left lying around... this gnome warlock up and ganks away on me.
K, so when I am dotted I can't turn into a bird.
I am NOT going to fight this lock... I /travel and head off...
Only to see his Warrrior buddy drop from the sky and Charge/stun me. I tap natures grasp and continue running... he gets rooted and then I see the lock just a coming at me on his Netherdrake... sigh
I jump off Netherstorm.
wait
wait
/Flight Form and fly off.
Did I mention the Heals and Dmg Boomking can get away with? What about shifting into cat and hitting Cower?
Did I mention the 6500 crit heal?
Druids are great fun.
Thursday, February 7, 2008
Instances ( A quick aside)
I leveled Herk as fast as I could with a 2-3 week stop over on Ally side because my wife began playing again and I wanted to play with her. All totaled Herk was leveled to 70 in about 10days played.
Ok, not the fastest by any means. However, not too bad imo.
I did not do instances on Herk. I had 1-2 runthroughs and that was it.
A brief history of Aerthson. Aerthson has been around for 2 ½ years. Aerthson was started as an alt to my Tauren Hunter who would be my main. Unfortunately, I began outlevely Sugars and my wife and my friends and only Noobed kept up. Finally, ended up quitting the Horde toon to go back to my raiding Dwarf Warrior. His total play time to 70 will be at the 12 day mark.
I did a bunch of instances on Aerthson. I should have done them on Herk too. Next time I level a toon, the toon will be doing instances. Instance give really good XP, make contacts, make avoidances and have a good shot at a gear upgrade.
I think the Shaman is the one I am most likely to play next. Why another toon? To catch up with my wife so I can play with her of course.
Also, with the gear reset closing in... I have neither the time nor the inclination to go after Tier gear on this expansion.
Ok, not the fastest by any means. However, not too bad imo.
I did not do instances on Herk. I had 1-2 runthroughs and that was it.
A brief history of Aerthson. Aerthson has been around for 2 ½ years. Aerthson was started as an alt to my Tauren Hunter who would be my main. Unfortunately, I began outlevely Sugars and my wife and my friends and only Noobed kept up. Finally, ended up quitting the Horde toon to go back to my raiding Dwarf Warrior. His total play time to 70 will be at the 12 day mark.
I did a bunch of instances on Aerthson. I should have done them on Herk too. Next time I level a toon, the toon will be doing instances. Instance give really good XP, make contacts, make avoidances and have a good shot at a gear upgrade.
I think the Shaman is the one I am most likely to play next. Why another toon? To catch up with my wife so I can play with her of course.
Also, with the gear reset closing in... I have neither the time nor the inclination to go after Tier gear on this expansion.
Tuesday, February 5, 2008
Top 10 Warrior Tanking List
10) Charging at the wrong time in the wrong situation
Charging can be done in an instance granting that there are no other mobs around any where near aggro range. Other than that, its a "pull" situation. Warriors... sometimes it's ok to have a gun just based on the stats, but if you are forgetful of stocking up on ammo like I am, go for the thrown weapons.
9) Thunderclap breaks sheep people!
Granted that the mob was already sheeped! Sure you charge into 4 things and want the aggro gen, but pull them back from the sheep and then TC em.
8) Pull back into the other room already!
If you have groups like I do, the group hovers around your ass til you /y at them to back up into the other room. This is just a good practice no matter if the mobs fear, have knockback or like to sheep you with you then sheepwalking into the other mobs. I have seen the latter happen.
7) You are not there to tank 1 and only 1 mob. You tank 3 minimum given the mobs.
I know... you are lv67 and I am just a healer. Don't make me pull my warrior and show you how to tank! It is possible to tank a full 4 with a warrior. No its not as easy as with a Druid Bear or a Pally (I have Consecrate) tankadin. If anyone wants the post where I actually outline how to do this... you have to leave a comment!
6) Marking!
You mark... its your job. Period. Times you don't mark... in a raid and you are not the raid leader and if you are noob to an instance and someone has been there on 2 toons already.
5) Target Marking!
Listen... you sheep Melee with high armor and kill them last. You sheep casters that have a fear effect or kill them first... where do you kill these? in the last F'ing room is where... yanno.. the one that is cleared already! You line of sight (LOS) pull casters and shooters. This means you hit them with a ranged and duck behind a colum or some such to pull them... where?... into the last damn room! Quit causing wipes!
4) Your Skull
3) Pay attention to mana bars!
You are not a one man show! You need healers and healers need mana. Pay careful attention to mana bars after 3 types of pulls... the initial, the oops and the we barely survived. This is a nice gauge of how taxing pulls are on your healers mana bar. Also, its a good inidication of how good your healer is.
2) Sunder
If I don't see Sunder, you aren't tanking properly... PERIOD.
1) Taunt
Taunt is used when aggro is pulled OFF you. It is NOT used to gain aggro.
Charging can be done in an instance granting that there are no other mobs around any where near aggro range. Other than that, its a "pull" situation. Warriors... sometimes it's ok to have a gun just based on the stats, but if you are forgetful of stocking up on ammo like I am, go for the thrown weapons.
9) Thunderclap breaks sheep people!
Granted that the mob was already sheeped! Sure you charge into 4 things and want the aggro gen, but pull them back from the sheep and then TC em.
8) Pull back into the other room already!
If you have groups like I do, the group hovers around your ass til you /y at them to back up into the other room. This is just a good practice no matter if the mobs fear, have knockback or like to sheep you with you then sheepwalking into the other mobs. I have seen the latter happen.
7) You are not there to tank 1 and only 1 mob. You tank 3 minimum given the mobs.
I know... you are lv67 and I am just a healer. Don't make me pull my warrior and show you how to tank! It is possible to tank a full 4 with a warrior. No its not as easy as with a Druid Bear or a Pally (I have Consecrate) tankadin. If anyone wants the post where I actually outline how to do this... you have to leave a comment!
6) Marking!
You mark... its your job. Period. Times you don't mark... in a raid and you are not the raid leader and if you are noob to an instance and someone has been there on 2 toons already.
5) Target Marking!
Listen... you sheep Melee with high armor and kill them last. You sheep casters that have a fear effect or kill them first... where do you kill these? in the last F'ing room is where... yanno.. the one that is cleared already! You line of sight (LOS) pull casters and shooters. This means you hit them with a ranged and duck behind a colum or some such to pull them... where?... into the last damn room! Quit causing wipes!
4) Your Skull
3) Pay attention to mana bars!
You are not a one man show! You need healers and healers need mana. Pay careful attention to mana bars after 3 types of pulls... the initial, the oops and the we barely survived. This is a nice gauge of how taxing pulls are on your healers mana bar. Also, its a good inidication of how good your healer is.
2) Sunder
If I don't see Sunder, you aren't tanking properly... PERIOD.
1) Taunt
Taunt is used when aggro is pulled OFF you. It is NOT used to gain aggro.
Friday, February 1, 2008
The Sandwich
So anyone who as been reading the blog knows that I now have both pieces of bread for any wow sandwich I wish.
Herk the warrior (Prot atm)
Aerthson the Druid (Balance atm)
If there is an instance I wanna see or due, I have the bread covered.
I really enjoy doing instance with Aerthson. I am new to healing through instances and it makes the game new and fun for me. With that new enjoyment from the Druid, I went back to tanking on Herk throughout the week and found I liked just as well.
Now I am tanking and healing through 5 mans and there is tons of fun stuff to talk about for me.
First up... the *shudder* effect.
DPS might not be simple but you know what you have to do... kick the sh!t out of something once you know it won't/can't kick the sh!t out of you!
Tanking is slightly tougher in that tanks have to try and grab aggro and maintain it. Tanking can be easy or hard but it does require awareness. I have played 2 hunters now and found that to play DPS of the party is like watching the game from the couch. Sure you can go MAX dps , you may even have to spring into action for a trap or 2 or maybe a silencing shot! But these things happens if a) the tank can't tank the mob, b) has lost aggro (see a), or c) all hell breaks loose (Again see a&b).
What I am saying is there are 3 parts to a party.
Tank
DPS
DPS
DPS
Healer
Sure you can change it up and make it look different but it still has the same motif.
Druid (Feral) Tank or DPS
Druid (Balance) DPS or Healing
Druid (Restoration) Healing or some DPS, no tanking.
Warrior (Arms) Tanking or DPS
Warrior (Fury) DPS or Tanking
Warrior (Prot) Tanking or why the hell are you here?
So you are either 1 of 3 things. A tank, DPS or a healer.
But what about Hybrids?!
Shaman = DPS/Healer/Laughable Tank
Paladin = Tank/Healer/Laughable DPS
Druid= All 3 equally depending on spec (Is this a Blizzard balance issue?)
Warrior = Tank/DPS
Priest = Healer/DPS
Warlock = DPS
Mage= DPS
Rogue= DPS
Hunter=DPS
See the sandwich and your part?
DPS does have specialty branches... CC types, offhealers, offtanks... off this off that. You get the picture.
The *shudder* effect starts to happen when you "know" the role a toon has in an instance personally and you know they don't know... *shudder*
It's like seeing the DPS/Healer not Heal cuz he is busy with DPS. WELL THE FURY WARRIOR AINT CAPABLE Shammy! You have to off heal! I don't wanna hear about your DPS!
It's like seeing a CC/DPS pulling with only to CC 2 mobs and there are 5. ARE YOU THE TANK?!
It's like a black fly in your chardonnay!
It's like seeing a TANK pull too many when he only has a Pally healer!
It's 10k spoons when all you need is a knife!
But the biggest *shudder* for me atm is seeing a tank... on a boss... and not seeing SUNDER on the boss... /smack!
It's like having to constantly keep the TANK less than 1/2 fool cuz the rogue don't know when to back off or drop aggro.
I don't when they got the idea that dodging attacks = tanking... musta played FF too much I s'pose.
Herk the warrior (Prot atm)
Aerthson the Druid (Balance atm)
If there is an instance I wanna see or due, I have the bread covered.
I really enjoy doing instance with Aerthson. I am new to healing through instances and it makes the game new and fun for me. With that new enjoyment from the Druid, I went back to tanking on Herk throughout the week and found I liked just as well.
Now I am tanking and healing through 5 mans and there is tons of fun stuff to talk about for me.
First up... the *shudder* effect.
DPS might not be simple but you know what you have to do... kick the sh!t out of something once you know it won't/can't kick the sh!t out of you!
Tanking is slightly tougher in that tanks have to try and grab aggro and maintain it. Tanking can be easy or hard but it does require awareness. I have played 2 hunters now and found that to play DPS of the party is like watching the game from the couch. Sure you can go MAX dps , you may even have to spring into action for a trap or 2 or maybe a silencing shot! But these things happens if a) the tank can't tank the mob, b) has lost aggro (see a), or c) all hell breaks loose (Again see a&b).
What I am saying is there are 3 parts to a party.
Tank
DPS
DPS
DPS
Healer
Sure you can change it up and make it look different but it still has the same motif.
Druid (Feral) Tank or DPS
Druid (Balance) DPS or Healing
Druid (Restoration) Healing or some DPS, no tanking.
Warrior (Arms) Tanking or DPS
Warrior (Fury) DPS or Tanking
Warrior (Prot) Tanking or why the hell are you here?
So you are either 1 of 3 things. A tank, DPS or a healer.
But what about Hybrids?!
Shaman = DPS/Healer/Laughable Tank
Paladin = Tank/Healer/Laughable DPS
Druid= All 3 equally depending on spec (Is this a Blizzard balance issue?)
Warrior = Tank/DPS
Priest = Healer/DPS
Warlock = DPS
Mage= DPS
Rogue= DPS
Hunter=DPS
See the sandwich and your part?
DPS does have specialty branches... CC types, offhealers, offtanks... off this off that. You get the picture.
The *shudder* effect starts to happen when you "know" the role a toon has in an instance personally and you know they don't know... *shudder*
It's like seeing the DPS/Healer not Heal cuz he is busy with DPS. WELL THE FURY WARRIOR AINT CAPABLE Shammy! You have to off heal! I don't wanna hear about your DPS!
It's like seeing a CC/DPS pulling with only to CC 2 mobs and there are 5. ARE YOU THE TANK?!
It's like a black fly in your chardonnay!
It's like seeing a TANK pull too many when he only has a Pally healer!
It's 10k spoons when all you need is a knife!
But the biggest *shudder* for me atm is seeing a tank... on a boss... and not seeing SUNDER on the boss... /smack!
It's like having to constantly keep the TANK less than 1/2 fool cuz the rogue don't know when to back off or drop aggro.
I don't when they got the idea that dodging attacks = tanking... musta played FF too much I s'pose.
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